I recently purchased 3 adults that were produced in 08 by Shannon. 2 of those are the photos you saw. I have 4 other adults that came from Stan Draper who got them directly from Applegate. All total 4 males and 3 females. Draper said that he was never able to breed them but I have eggs incubating now after the first try. I have 1 more female that I am hopeful about this year, will have to wait and see.

What gets me is none of the older arcifera from Applegate have much black like others I have seen including the ones from Shannon. It's like there are 2 color phases or just a lot of variation. attached are a couple of the older animals from Applegate.

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