Thanks Brad, the bottom pic of my first post are fresh out of the egg everglades rats. They have more of a pinkish color in real life. The ones at the bottom of my second post are south Texas emory's rats as Mike said. Many scientists and hobbyists, including myself recognize them as the subspecies Pantherophis guttatus meahllmorum. I've also seen it as Pantherophis emoryi meahllmorum. Unlike cornsnakes, they lay fewer larger eggs and hatch out big.
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Matt Kauffman

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