Actually, I didn't "assume" anything. What I say is based off of experience. Brumation isn't JUST for breeding. Brumation is to make as close an assimilation to what the lizard would experience in the wild as possible, and that is why, GENERALLY speaking, that brumation is required or at least preferred in the breeding or success in any healthy reptile. They have adapted to living to a certain way of life, and while I know there is only so much you can do to reconstruct that in captivity, since we are going to keep the monitor lizards, it is our absolute responsibility to do the best for them. Brumation doesn't just cause reproduction, it relays what a lizard would experience in the wild, BECAUSE typically the lizards come out of a season of inactivity to breed in the wild. It was once said on this forum that the fact that we can't breed the Savannah monitors in captivity likely proves that we are doing something wrong(or it's the fact that most of us wouldn't go out of the way to construct a termite mound, where the eggs are generally laid in the wild). AND IF that is the case, then there is something in your schedule that just isn't kickin' it for the monitors. I'm not assuming you've tried to breed, but I am assuming that most people that have attempted to breed are caring for their monitors very similar to the way you do, because they just look online for the first guide to raising monitors IN GENERAL without taking in to consideration that there is some specialization among species. Now, earlier you seemed to insinuate that the cause of obesity in monitors has to do with over feeding. I know there are plenty of monitor keepers that retain high enough temps for their monitors and still have obese monitors. By saying "very difficult", are we about to start talking about donuts again? My point is simply so - if we had the perfect formula for raising Savannah monitors in captivity, would we not have captive bred Savannahs? YOU'RE the one who needs to show me some p

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