Thanks, honestly this is all I've been looking for this whole time. First off, as for brumation, THAT was just something I was throwing out there for conversation while we were at it all. I know that when I bred Basilisk lizards, mine absolutely refused to breed until I sent them through a brumation period, and while I do understand we're talking about an entirely different genus, a savannah monitor is different from and Ackie, which is different from a malaysian water monitor, which is different from the next and the next and the next. And like you said, the necessity varies among subjects, so I had no reason to believe it couldn't be a possibility. As we've all stated many times, they don't live in "optimum conditions" in the wild. So should it not be easy for us to produce less than optimum conditions then? I mean, I just don't get why there have been less than fifty captive bred reported occurances with Savannah monitors. It blows my mind with all the ground we've covered over the years with monitors, that the least expensive and cared for monitor, the most prolific breeder in the wild, still cannot be captive bred in abundance.

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