Yeah, definitely the Jim Kane "undescribed milk" there. I know I, Scott Ballard, Cole, Shannon, Jeff Hardwick and many other's have wondered about exactly what it's lineage consists of ever since they were known to exist. Scott Ballard and I were talking about them probably a year or two ago as well.

I see all milksnake in it's outward phenotype, and no mexicana complex geneflow at all when I look at them. Just from the outward looks and what area they originated from (Nuevo Leon, Mexico) they seem to likely be either a composite of dixoni x campbelli, or dixoni x annulata in my opinion, just as Shannon and Scott theorize.

Here is a bit of their history that I saved from Shannon's post a couple years back. No doubt Cole and several other's here are familiar with this too.


Jim Kane “undescribed milk” Feb 11, 2009

KS post by Shannon Brown


Cole,

In the early to mid 90's Jim starting producing what he called undescribed milks.I finally got him to send my some pics and what history he would share. He really would never say where they where from or how he got them.I just figured at the time that he had a single Dixoni and he crossed it with a annulata or maybe a pueblan.
It wasn't untill about four years ago that I was talking with a old friend out Grayband hunting one night that the animals where actually legit milks that where just that ( undescribed).He said he had seen the original animals imported in the late 80's and that they where collected from around Neuvo Leon area.

I think they may be a dixoni intergarde or something. Anyway, The last ones I saw for sale where on the classifieds in about 2000 or 2001.Jim is way long gone and he sold off all his stuff here and there. Nobody really kept track of them and to my knowledge the last pair was picked up in Alabama about 4 years ago but the female died that year and the male is still going well but just sitting with another friend idling for now.
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