So having done a quick refresher on Mendel's work I believe I see your point... Wild Caughts and Parent Generation are the same thing... any offspring are therefore F1's... but let's take this to an extreme... something I love to do

Lets say Michael (the OP) had observed that gravid female laying her eggs in a hollow log... then built a barricade around that log so the hatchlings couldn't possibly escape... he then harvests a pair of the hatchlings... breeds them... the offpring are F1... F2?

Even more extreme...let's say he stumbles upon a clutch of eggs... builds the same barricade (in essence CH'ing)... finds the eggs pipping the very next day... would he be harvesting WC/PG or F1's?

A step further... stumbles on clutch of eggs... no barricade... eggs pip in the great outdoors the very next day... he harvests a pair... are they WC or F1's?

No need to answer if you don't want... just finished watching the History Channel... I've only now learned the moon is hollow and in fact may be a "Death Star" inhabited by aliens... so this fine line between WC and F1 may not be of any great import

Happy New Year Doug... and to all of you others!

Gerry... or as I'll now be called... F10,009,637

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