"Here's the other question as I haven't worked with extreme hypu hondo's, if you breed an extreme to an amel do you get extreme's and amels? or do you get all normals?"



Jimmy, as you would already know here, unless the extreme hypo is het for amel, when bred to an amel you would get all normals double het for hypo and amel (hybino) just like any other recessive morph combination.



The mode of inheritence is certainly altogether different in the t-plus nelsoni and the extreme hypos as you also know.



Also, I don't buy at all that any so-called "hypo" expressing ruby red eyes is a form of t-plus albino and that it cannot be a hypo. If melanin is reduced in the entire animal, it can esily reduce the black pupils to a deep ruby-red as well, I mean,...why couldn't it?. The first real hypo Hondos I saw in 1995 in Orlando that went a step beyond simply being very "clean" and vividly colored where you could actually see a reduction of the black coloration itself within the cells and had noticeable ruby eyes were hypos and even came from very clean and typical hypo clutches. I could post countless pics of all sorts of animals and clutches that would blow holes all in of this anyway. Like I said in my earlier post, similar looking mutations can be very different things.



Just because a "t-plus" Boa constrictor and nelsoni both display a brownish/purplish hue with deep ruby eyes doesn't mean that my light silvery gray (some slightly green hued) extreme hypos are also tyrosinaise positive albinos. These can (and do) vary greatly from nice clean typical dark hypos with seemingly normal dark eyes all the way to the INSANEST light silvery gray with very obvious red eyes. It has nothing whatsoever to do with amelanism either, and is simply allelic somehow with the typical hypomelanism, only very exaggerated. As to what exactly goes on and is responsible for doing it, who knows, but I have seen boat-loads of hypo clutches, ultra-lights, and extremes, and I don't think they are the same thing AT ALL as the nelsoni t-plus phenotype,...nor are they like the t-plus Boa constrictors, lavender speckled kings, lavender floridana, etc...



















































Also, is an extreme ghost with noticeable ruby eyes also a t-plus x anery and not a hypo x anery?......I don't think so..







Then what about these "mega" line hypos???, are those all t-plus too?..HAHA!!











Anyway, I don't think all this is so easy to simply categorize as some are assuming here...



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