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RE: Anery Question

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Posted by: Rextiles at Thu May 24 23:11:55 2012   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Rextiles ]  
   

Your female, in my opinion, is a Normal, albeit a very light normal. I could be wrong, but she might be what some would call a green phase (I really have a hard time discerning what some "see" as a green phase ).

In regards to Axanthics, they also can be devoid of red as well as being without yellow. Well known corn snake breeder, dermatologist and author of the fine book "Reptile and Amphibian Variants", Bernard Becthel, refers to Anerythrism as a subcategory of Axanthism, mainly when animals lack only red pigmentation when both yellow and red pigments are common, thus, yellow pigmentation is usually still quite visible. This is why in corn snakes, you see yellow on anerythristics as well as in snows. Ironically, while Becthel does recognize those corn snakes as specifically being anerythristic, in his book, he claims that he still likes to refer to them as axanthic, probably because it's a more generalized term but IMO, also adds unneeded confusion when specificity is needed.

To put it another way, all anerythristics are axanthic, but not all axanthics are anerythristic. It really depends on which pigmentations are commonly found on specific animals and what are absent in the mutation. Bechtel even goes as far as generalizing anerythristic corn snakes as simply axanthics basically for the reason stated in the first sentence of this paragraph. Defining a corn snake as an anerythristic is being even more specific of what type of axanthism it is portraying (from how I interpret his writing).

This is why I don't believe Western Hognose are anerythristic, because the very common yellow pigmentation as found on their ventrals should still be visible if they were true anerythristics and not a single keeper of Axanthics, myself included, has ever reported any hint of yellow pigmentation being found on any individual nor have those with Snow hogs ever seen any yellow pigmentation bleed through like they do on Snow corns.
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