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GerardS
at Wed May 30 13:17:15 2012 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by GerardS ]
Maybe if you gave a little context on what kind of bonding you claim goes on. Is it pair bonding, like with birds? I don't know why you think the way you and Rainer do/did it is any different then any other way someone keeps a king snake. You say it's choices but it's still yours. You chose what temps they get, what and when they get to eat and who the live and breed with. They are still in a box, with a unnatural substrate and a bowl of water. Rainer, I don't know about you, says to use heat pads because lights dry the cages but that's not natural either, they come out and bask in the sun. He does that because he can't or doesn't understand how to provide a cage that can handle a heat light. I believe that you guys have been keeping them together long before I was born, I think you could force animals to do anything under the right conditions. That's why it only works when you do it a certain way, right? Also, the information about wild kings bonding and living in social groups, where is that? If you want to talk about this, you posted it, so I guess you do, try explaining what makes you think they are a social animal capable of intimate relationships. Have you ever tried putting several of your bonded groups in a really big cage or room with several identical hides and conditions? Would they end up together in their "bonded" groups? Have you tried anything like that, which could support bonding? Not den sites, where they seek the certain environmental conditions but actually identifying and seeking out specific individuals. Also, how how and why do you think they share foods, another characteristic of pair bonding? If they do come across piles of say, young rodents, why do you guys say it's bad to feed adults pinky mice? I defiantly believe you guys have trained them to do these captive requirements you give them but where have you seen GETULA do it in the wild? ----- Gerard
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