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RE: Frank

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Posted by: FR at Wed May 30 13:50:07 2012   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

I recomended you do some research, first learn something basic about ethology, then concentrate of bonding and imprinting etc. As it is, You seem to be trying to make those words FIT your outlook and dismiss actual experience.

You live in south Fla, right, have you ever collected kings, or any specie for that matter.

Where do you go, anywhere? I ask for a reason, do you go anywhere, or do you go to a certain spot? This is a very important question.

Most folks go to a place that they "know" is good for kings. In your case, it may be a canal piling. So you go and find something to look under, or if your inventive, you place AC, artificial cover. Like tin or boards.

THen if you go at a certain time, you can find kings under that AC, sometimes many kings(why) and others one king. But then you go back and find another king under the same board, then another. So many are found in a certain place and often together or seperately under the same board. You my friend call that spot, a hot spot. So you go there. Not somewhere where you find NOTHING. See, this problem solving is fun.

So I ask, where were the kings before you put the AC there? Where are they when they are not under the boards? And because the end up under the same board, there must be a number of them, HOW MANY? And how come there are places where king after king are found under one board, when they eat eachother??????? Wouldn't they avoid that board where other kings go???????

So when we go snake hunting, how come we do not find kings chasing kings all the time, after all, they eat eachother????? good questions my friends.

If you check old records, that are many instances of large gatherings of kings. In fact, its not hard to find huge numbers of speckled kings in one tiny area, and they are feeding, ON OTHER SNAKES, why??????????? That also occurs in Fla.

And here, oh heck everywhere. But you dismiss that and say, I put two together and one ate the otherone, Yup, they do that. So would you and we humans not are social and bond, yet we kill the shat out of eachother, if you did study behavior, part of being social is EXCLUDING, and including.

Which is really what this discussion is about, your group excludes anything that does not agree with you. Thats why I make a point that you have to answer good questions. Not dismiss anything you do not agree with.

So We, bluerosy and I, agree that you can keep and breed kings like you do, But you refuse to admit that we can keep them in groups and feed them together without problems. Sir, you have to admit it can be done before we go any farther.

As it is, you dismiss any and all evidence, and why, heck if I know. I suggest, try to understand, not try to dismiss.

A simple fact, kings occur in numbers, if they ate eachother as a normal part of their behavior, they would not exsist in numbers. Answer that sir.


   

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