So you're saying since we sometimes find a pair together and/or 2-3 under the same rock/board/tin, that is consistent with bonding. I said since you sometimes find a king with a garter, rattlesnake, etc., now could that also be considered consistent with bonding? If not, why? You're coming to a conclusion based on what you're seeing right?

What I am saying, and have been saying all along, is that since some keep them in groups in their cages does NOT mean they prefer to live that way or that it is natural for them. There is absolutely no proof of this. It's all pure opinion. All snakes mate. Does this mean all snakes bond and therefore should be housed together in groups in captivity? Or could it be, we sometimes just find a pair or several individuals at the same spot.

I'll say it again like so many times already but breeders have had success with keeping kings both solitary and in groups. I have no problem with either method. But when a claim is made that they prefer groups based only on opinion and what is done in captivity, without any evidence to back up that opinion, one can not say that they prefer it or it is natural. I've given plenty of evidence myself that kings are not found in groups nor the numbers one claims they have or can be found. And this is published evidence. And when people are trying to tell everyone that their method is better and come across with such high egos about themselves, well then if anything, they should really be able to back up their claims. And so far, they haven't even come close.

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