Billy,I have a couple of pics saved of yours,and of course I have seen the pic from Jason's site listed as "Iowa hypo" they remind me of the bullsnake version of the "rusty Sonoran" gopher. (in regards to phenotypical appearance .) I'm still interested in trying to understand the visual differences between "Trumbower",and "Iowa" in their appearance as adults...I'd like to add that I didn't want to give the impression that I was trying to "hijack" the thread from Lucas,and Jeremy. I had just hoped to initiate some conversation about the "other"two forms of hypo,(aside from the "Golden"/"Stillwater" form,which seems to be easily recognizable to most folks.) I have been tempted to buy several animals listed as "hypo" ,but once I start inquiring about "what strain of hypo" there seems to be a bit of confusion among some breeders. I thought that since this thread seemed to get some conversational interest in the subject going,we might all benefit from any info that could be provided by the veteran "Sayi enthusiasts" that contribute here...I still want to offer my congratulations to Lucas on a "killer" clutch of gorgeous babies!!!!!! )
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