Yes, it's JUST like those examples you mentioned. Once they are "in there", they are in there and cannot be taken away.

And yes, yours is likely a totally genuine amel nelsoni, or an integrade showing FAR more nelsoni than any sinaloae in it's outward phenotype. It's impossible to know which without seeing all the siblings and traceable parental stock, but one things absolutely certain, and that's that it very much isn't an Amel Sinaloan....

I think you have a good understanding of this now, which is a great thing. Most hobbyists have no idea what the precise differences really are. Intergrades and crosses of course make things difficult to accurately ID as there is some variation within both, but exceptional examples of both subspecies are like night and day. Most people are used to seeing very intermediate examples in the hobby, so of course they can't make out any obvious differences....


~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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