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FR
at Fri Dec 7 10:06:32 2012 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Thats very interesting, and would be even more interesting if the eggs hatched.
The question of sperm storage or pathnogentic reproduction comes to mind. Not sure you can tell with these morphs. It would be nice to know if she is indeed het for albino, then you will know.
If some of the offspring are albino, then its sperm storage. If they are all normal, that means nothing.
I am new to keeping hogs, I did some 30 years ago. But it appears from reading these forums and talking to some of my hog keeping friends that hognose are a tad different.
That is, they are a little loose when it comes to standard methods of keeping colubrids. That is, the need for forced brumation(hibernate)
To me they are a perfect case for understanding that hibernation is not needed or required. So if you understood that, then what you just witnessed would not be a surprise.
It also appears, remember I am new to this forum, that folks do not have a handle on palpating snakes to "know" whats going on inside them.
I do field work with herps and palpating is normal procedure. Its easy to do and easy on the snakes.
You can tell when ovum forms(string of pearls), you can tell when they enlarge and you can tell when they move back. Once they move back, you know they will be laying soon.
In the old days, some of us carried a silk hanky when we visited other collections. Place it in your hands and let whateversnake you want crawl thru your hand and fingers, keeping your fingers a fixed distance so the snake will crawl between them, like in a crack or burrow, which they do on a daily basis naturally.
Doing that tells you so much, much more then if there are ovum or eggs.
Once you know how to do this, surprises like yours are eliminated.
I have hogs now and I palpate to see who ate what. I keep my pairs together and just toss in live fuzzies. They eat when they want.
I am one of the founders of the hibernation method, but its been taken to a point of convienence for keepers and not about the snakes any longer. Snakes do require cool temps, they do year around, Cool temps are key. Hibernation is not what the vast majority of snakes do. In fact, most of the species being hibernated(brumated) do not naturally do that. Cheers
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RE: Hognose laying whilst brumating ! - FR, Fri Dec 7 10:06:32 2012