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FR
at Sun Dec 9 10:12:34 2012 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Stop acting like little jealous kids, which is exactly what your doing.
I have my opinions, those are used to show something, that something is call awareness. For instance, what I said indicates that I know the strong points and the weak points of keeping snakes in show/sweaterbox/rack systems. What you doing is not foreign to me. That is all it indicates. That you take it in some other way is WEAK.
If you want to question my opinions on such things as hiberation and shoe boxes(rack systems), that is fine. In order to do that a decent person would would ask questions, something like how did that occur and or, why did that occur. But you do not do that. You act like children. You make silly accusations.
Your naive method of seperating paragraphs to make silly points is not how you carry on civil conversations. That is a method of attack.
As an example, REX SAID, I wash my hands of you. You said that in a previous post. So why are you responding now? Again, this is a simple example of context. You obviously changed your context or you would not have replied now. And your allowed to do so.
The actual point is, before something was done, in most cases, there was no need to do it. Which is the simple case with this subject.
Before two real events occurred, The captive breeding of, Albino corns(Dr. Becktel(sp) and albino kings(me), there was no NEED to Hibernate or house large numbers of snakes. Before they came along, there was no need for constant reproduction or housing of large numbers of adults or offspring. I would tell you what my first attempt at housing large numbers, but you would laugh, and you would be right to laugh, it was funny.
In Dr. Bechtels case, he did not commericalize(sell) snakes. At the time there was no actual value. He produced very few animals and for specific genetic reasons. IT was some folks that got his animals. The Erine Wagners and Glenn skimmers and others, that produced them in numbers to sell. Yet at the time there was still no methods or market. The albino cal kings coupled with the corns changes the landscape. They created what you have today.
If you would actually do some research, and read books that were published pre 70's, they recomended keeping snakes in tanks, at 72F and feeding once a month. And if they were picky and they mostly were, covering the cage with newspaper so the snake would not be to frighened to feed. Thats what we had to start our captive husbandry.
Heres what I question, and I do always question stuff, you guys are going so well, and have such beautiful animals, why on earth are you so insecure?????????
what I do not understand is, how come there cannot be different opinions, or different approaches? In this case, with colubrids, its not about success, its just different ways to achieve success. With snakes, they are friggin easy to keep and breed, anyone can do it(and that is so true) So why can't we discuss or use, different methods of keeping them? Truefully, I could breed them for the rest of my life and not catch up to you. What is your problem?
So I will again ask, what the heck are you afraid of, have you seen the pictures you guys post? Its crazy insane the beautiful animals you guys are producing. Yet, you run around with both hands over your hindies. Could you explain that?
It does not matter what subject we are talking about, would it be, right or wrong, if I saw ways to improve your husbandry?????? If I see a problem what could be fixed and easily and did not offer a solution? should I mention it or just shut up and let your animals suffer???
Its my "opinion" that I should at least make an attempt. What you do its yours to do.
Whether you keep them in sweater boxes or whatever is yours to do. At this time, I choose to go old school. So far, these hogs are fun and entertaining. Cheers
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RE: ROFL - Good catch Gregg! - FR, Sun Dec 9 10:12:34 2012