You really do have some interesting information Frank, but some of the stuff you state makes me laugh out loud (LOL)!



YOU WROTE:

THe POINT, until you test your animals in conditions that are natural to them(where they evolved to live) you are just recieving prejudiced results. They are accurate, in those conditions. Which is foreign to natural conditions.



Also, testing needs to be done to failure, not minimum success. If not done, you really have no idea of what is minimum and what is maximum.



Ok, so what occurs naturally IS NOT necessarily optimum dude! Now are the temp fluctuations necessary for reproduction? Do they spawn certain behaviors? You could say yes to both of those questions and many more I’m sure...but huge temp fluctuations are NOT "ideal" even though the animals survive through them.



I think what MOST of us try to do is give OPTIMUM temps for our reptiles (so they thrive and grow/breed)...these temps are different for reptiles found in different climates.



Do we have our optimum temps incorrect? I think that is why we should give our reptiles a temperature gradient...and allow them to choose.



For example, look at underground temps ... they fluctuate far less than the outside temps (ground temps):





The deeper you go, the more stable the temps become.





Why do reptiles spend so much time hiding underground/under cover/animal holes/etc? Because they LIKE IT!!!! LMFAO :D





I believe reptiles have a small window of optimum temperature range that they THRIVE in and that's why it is so difficult to find them in the field!!! (well it is for me) It is also why, when shipping snakes the temps are very important during transportation...too hot DEAD...too cold DEAD...and these temps are just for a few hours!



I tell you what, you test your temp theory to the "minimum and maximum to failure" and let me know at what min and max temps your pet hognose snakes die!



Jesus........

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