Sorry have not read this forum in a while.



You say closed mind. Its you and some here that have a problem. All I have said is what wonderful animals you guys produce.



THat I allow folks to see these animals in a different way and you guys attack. Thats on you.



And I am not after you or any of you to change. I keep saying, you can do what you want. If you don't want to try anything or test anything or change in any way, good on you. You shouldn't.



THe point is very simple, you have moved so far away from WHAT THE ANIMALS ARE. You fail to understand anything I say about them. The ARE I am talking about is HOGNOSE as a whole, not morphs in a box. (the morphs are wonderful, but they still are hognose)



All I ask of folks is to think, and to think about the animals, yet all you can do is think about me. hahahahahahahahaha again, good on you.



Your posts are indeed telling, you dwell on me, and not one question about the animals.



I will end with a couple simple questions, what do your cages have to do with HOGNOSE? Are they not just basic colubrid cages?



Please answer that, after all, I only came here to learn about hognose, you know, hogs being hogs, not just another colubrid.



And if I see females exposed to poor nesting, I will mention it. And I will attempt to show whats normal.



By the way, how come so many here have females die after a clutch or two??? ITs a good question. Thanks

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