Honestly Frank, I am not offended by you. I have to admit, I was at first. But now I am seeing the bgger picture behind you post and can read between the lines and figure out what you are getting at. I have quite enjoyed the last few days conversing with you instead of arguing and taking offence to your wording. The simple truth of it is, we are all learning and it is good to get different views and it is always good to think for ourselves instead of having the answers gift wrapped and handed to us.



As far as the queation of "is this all I can do for my snakes?", the answer is no, but like you said, it is a step in the right direction. I try to do the best I can with the space I have. If I only kept a few hogs, their setups would be much different



And, as far as this technique being from the 70's and it becomming new all of a sudden goes, I guess certain techniques were replaced by simplicity and over the years good ideas got lost. I am not saying that there were not some good ideas that replaced the old ones, but I think some things are mad to easy for the keeper which in turn makes things harder for the kept.



To be honest, I have always had a problem with usig long stemspagnum moss as a nesting material. It akes no sense to me. I can not see how when eggs are scattered and rolling around it is considered proper or good nesting. However, people who do use this method do still get good results so I never mention anything about it. I do know a couple of my hog buddies have changed their nesting a bit for the better.



Me and John are testing this out this season on a few gravid girls. A little side by side testing should be good. Maybe my study group will be large next season. LOL. I expect the reslts to be good.

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