ok, maybe arrogance was not the proper way to word it. I just think you fail to, or flat refuse to see other peoples points sometimes...maybe I am just taking it wrong, and if so...I apologize for that. I want as naturalistic(as literally as possible)for my hogs. I asked your advise, I gave you my initial thoughts...you gave me your opinions and points, and I said that I would change up how I was going to set up...using sandy substrate instead of the mixture I was originally going to use, as well, I changed a few more of my initial thoughts on how I was going to set up.

my question to you, that you still have NOT answered, is how does having some surface structure(that I KNOW does exist in some hognose natural range)limit or change their natural habits and the way they live. I do not think that adding a few rocks of live plants is going to take away from the enclosure...and I SURELY don't believe that it is taking away from the usable space of the vivarium. if there are a few rock, or plants...the snakes can crawl over, under, or even around them...I just don't see how you are saying that it is not NATURALISTIC to have these things...when they ARE CLEARLY IN THE NATURAL HABITAT OF THE WILD HOGNOSE. I understand that there may not be a lot of ground cover or even plants where YOU ARE OBSERVING....but you cannot tell me that there is not any of that stuff in OTHER HOGNOSE SNAKES NATURAL HABITAT. ..because there is, fact.



and as far as a few live plants in the vivarium...they would be in pots, buried in the substrate, with pea gravel inside the pots, above the soil that the plant is planted in...to avoid the snakes uprooting the plants...I don't know if it will keep the snakes from uprooting, but I wont know until I try it. if I were to ever have to move or remove the plants...all I need to do is pull the pots, no harm to the plants.

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