This is totally simple and now overdone. I offer you, my thoughts, based on my experience. Thats what I am suppose to do.



You offer your thoughts, based on what you want, your goals. We agree on somethings and do not on others. No problem.



I offer you what I feel is important to help you obtain your stated goals. If you do not want that, great. But its not my responsibility to apease you. Or agree with you, when I see you are not getting the importance of what I say(think).



You also stated, you look to my thoughts because of my experience in the field. Yet you do not like what I am saying, based on that experience in the field. The truth is, you do not have to agree or do what I say, you are free to do whatever you want.



More truth, whatever you do or think is great. I hope it works for you.



I also stated, my goals are much like yours. but unlike you, I am starting slow and working towards that goal. That is, my current setup is semi natualistic. Only in the fact that I supported a wide range of temps and security(the only natural part). As I learn how these individual animals work, I will add natural materials. Slowly step by step. I may end up with a cage like you want or not. depending on how they the animals react.



My feeling is, you want to capture a postcard picture of your precieved hognose habitat. I on the otherhand, I want to add usable parts of their natural habitat. Like a successful home area and nesting area, Then add to that in ways to pretty it up.



The first step I feel we can do in captivity is provide them with what THEY WANT. and thats a home. after that, your free to make yourself feel better in anyway you like.



So in the end, I am not suppose to think like you, or confirm your hopes or goals. I am suppose to offer you my experience.



About being right or wrong, its not about that. Not yet. What you end up doing will have a result, that result can be judged as right or wrong. And only how it suits your goals, not mine. I was hoping to help you reach your goals.



Lets break it down, if what you want is a pretty cage, your approach is great. But is what you want is about the animals mental and physical welbeing. Give it something it wants. Pretty simple.



And its not personal or liking you or not liking you. Its discussion. no more, no less. You really need to understand that. This is a discussion board. We come here to discuss things, not agree on things. We come to offer tidbits for thought. Not believing or not believing.



In the end and I hope this is the end. You asked me a question, I answered. What you do is yours to do. But you go on and on about me not understanding you. Sir/ette, I am not suppose to understand you. I am only suppose to offer you my thoughts. Hopefully it helps you, if not, I tried. I have tried. Thanks and good luck and please report your progress. best wishes

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