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at Mon Jun 3 12:36:17 2013 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Actually Austin, I love your questions, I always have questions, hahahahahahahahahaha
If you want to learn something, get a heat gun, hmmmmm an infra-red thermometer. Most pet shops carry them, as well as places like tool companies.
Take one in the field, or just outside by your house. Then take temps of everything. Including in the ground.
I took a friend in the field with me and handed him a temp gun, didn't say anything to him. He took temps in the sun, in the shade, under boards, etc. Down holes. A couple hours later he said, Everything he thought he knew about temps was wrong. hahahahahahahahahahaha
That said, air temps have very little to do with reptiles, surface temps and mass temps, have everything to do with reptiles. Air temps are loose, very loose, surface and mass temps are exacting.
And yes, I have taken temps in natural reptiles nests, of many species.
What your right about is, they are not the same and never the same. hahahahahahahahahaha They are cooler, then hotter etc. and do change as the summer goes on.
They can and do take far more heat then we can give them.
The problem is, how we successfully incubate, is nothing like how they incubate in nature. But it works. Hmmmmm that word, it works. It actually works pretty good. Not as good as nature, but pretty good.
The key is humidity. In nature, they are far dryer, which allows the eggs to go from cool to hot, without dying. In our incubators, we have to much WATER and the eggs are too full. So any increase in heat, pops the eggs. Not a good thing. The ability to absorb water is based on temps, the lower the temps, less, the hotter, more. etc. Its easy to test. Take snake eggs that look great, nice and full, that are at 82F and drop the temps, the eggs will cave in, as the temps drop. THen take nice and full eggs that are at 78F and raise the temps, the eggs drown, seep, pop, etc. I recomend only testing by dropping the temps. hahahahahahahahaha
The point that must be brought up is, snake eggs, colubrid eggs, and hog eggs in particular, are easy as all get out. You can hatch them, in a plastic bag on a shelf in a room. Any room thats mid seventies to mid eighties. No need to worry about this or that. Unless you get on the hot side.
So yea, keep asking questions, and keep finding answers. There are always more questions and more answers.
No Austin, Troy told you to ignore me. that was not you, that was him and its based on HIS problems. Not yours and not mine.
I know a lot about reptiles, and no so much about weird humans. If I see a real problem, with husbandry, I would think folks would want to hear it. Of course they are free to use that information or not, but for folks to fight tooth and claw. That is weird. Its clear when that happens, its not about the animals, or what benefits the animals. It makes it all about human social conditions. Which is also great, but should take a backseat to the welbeing of the animals. Cheers
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RE: First Clutch - FR, Mon Jun 3 12:36:17 2013
