Forgive me, I did not read the above posts. But your right on with this, many here act as if it really hurts to think. They want it all about right or wrong, no inbetween, A or Z.

They feel that's important to them. As a field herper first, there is no right or wrong, theres data and that data combines to indicate something, until that is proven different with more data. So on and so forth.

To me, there is a complete lack of science on this forum. WAIT, don't yell yet. Science is to question and keep questioning. And that includes questioning science. Please understand, every paper, every study, is supposed to be questioned and debunked. That is the design. The honor or glory of any paper is how long it stays valid. Not staying valid forever.

It appears here on this forum that religious science is followed, that is, blindly believing in literature.(without question, which is unscientific)

Its a bit like this, years ago, I was doing some work at the L.A. zoo when this article hit the papers and the news. It was about this petshop iggie guy, I think it he was called "Henry lizardman". He did all this and that with his iggies. The news lady said, so your an expert iggie man. He paused, thought, then said, no, I have expert iggies.

That is it, the animals are the experts, we just do what we know at the time. In this case, the hogs are indeed the book, the paper, the article they are the real deal. What we write or read in books is, an attempt, a guess, the best we know at the time.

So, I say stuff and hopefully cause folks to think, hmmmmmmmm

Me, I am interested in hognose, the real animal, whats inside those beautiful colors and patterns you guys produce. I have nothing against morphs and genetics, I simply wonder why people do not understand that inside of those skin morphs, There is a wonderful animal inside. Cheers

p.s. that big headed girl is HOT!

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