" The bottom line is, some snakes are born healthy and can thrive either in the wild or captivity while others cannot. The good news is, hognose are a species that generally do quite well in captivity, but obviously there are a few out there that challenge us sometimes leaving us wondering what it is we might be doing wrong, but the absolute truth is, not every hatchling that is born is going to be 100% perfect healthwise and it has absolutely nothing to do with husbandry, some are just defective whether it's genetic or caused by external environmental issues such as incorrect incubation temps or several other factors. "

Perfectly stated, and the best post in this whole mess so far.

At first, you should always look at your husbandry. That is a given, and somewhat common sense. Duh. But..always blaming the husbandry, to be the be-all end-all, of any problems is actually living in denial about the fact that, like you said, not every hatchling is born 100 % healthwise. Been proven. Time and time again. Tell that to someone who has studied reptile biology and medicine. This thing called " Science " is a scawy word.....

Everyone who has kept snakes, a large amount, or bred, for a long time, has experienced either some baby snake born that did not do well, or had a snake in their collection die, after thriving for years on end, for no apparent given reason.

Same with other animals.

Same with humans. I was born two months early, and was completely jacked up physically, and was supposed to die. I was in the hospital for months. Good thing the doctors didn't pull what many breeders do, and stick me in the freezer in a deli cup because I was not doing well at first, much less not being the newest and biggest morph out there.

HA HA!!!!

I remember the doctors telling my mom and dad, that their husbandry was not good enough.

HA HA!

We could go all day on this....( snicker )

Great post Troy!! As usual, you completely hit the nail on the head.
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• maintenance feeders? - geckoejon, Wed Jul 24 06:47:45 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - FR, Wed Jul 24 10:38:07 2013
• RE: part 2 - FR, Wed Jul 24 10:43:39 2013
• RE: part 3 - FR, Wed Jul 24 11:04:22 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - GoHogWild, Wed Jul 24 11:49:26 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - kenmckayii, Wed Jul 24 12:09:50 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - FR, Wed Jul 24 14:24:03 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - geckoejon, Wed Jul 24 15:29:46 2013
• Hey Geckoejon... - Gregg_M_Madden, Wed Jul 24 16:37:08 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - geckoejon, Wed Jul 24 18:00:07 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - Gregg_M_Madden, Wed Jul 24 18:41:18 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - geckoejon, Thu Jul 25 09:15:37 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - Gregg_M_Madden, Thu Jul 25 20:59:37 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - geckoejon, Fri Jul 26 09:40:48 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - FR, Thu Jul 25 22:01:14 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - FR, Thu Jul 25 09:39:11 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - DISCERN, Thu Jul 25 20:45:05 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - Austin12, Fri Jul 26 00:41:46 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - DISCERN, Fri Jul 26 00:52:23 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - Austin12, Fri Jul 26 02:10:33 2013
• RE: Got to stop the misinformation.. - Gregg_M_Madden, Fri Jul 26 06:47:44 2013
• RE: Got to stop the misinformation.. - FR, Fri Jul 26 07:59:18 2013
• RE: Got to stop the misinformation.. - GoHogWild, Fri Jul 26 12:11:21 2013
• RE: Got to stop the misinformation.. - DISCERN, Fri Jul 26 10:13:36 2013
• RE: Got to stop the misinformation.. - FR, Sat Jul 27 18:16:44 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - DISCERN, Fri Jul 26 19:59:38 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - geckoejon, Sat Jul 27 07:39:35 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - Gregg_M_Madden, Sat Jul 27 08:58:04 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - geckoejon, Sat Jul 27 09:38:30 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - DISCERN, Sat Jul 27 12:59:06 2013
• RE: DISCERN.... - Gregg_M_Madden, Sat Jul 27 14:06:39 2013
• RE: DISCERN.... - DISCERN, Sat Jul 27 15:30:20 2013
• We all love our snakes, right? - GoHogWild, Sat Jul 27 14:18:58 2013
• RE: Hey Geckoejon... - FR, Sat Jul 27 22:01:14 2013
• discern - geckoejon, Fri Jul 26 05:19:09 2013
• RE: discern - DISCERN, Fri Jul 26 20:19:04 2013
• RE: discern - FR, Sun Jul 28 10:30:22 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - FR, Wed Jul 24 18:51:26 2013
• RE: maintenance feeders? - FR, Wed Jul 24 14:03:00 2013
• RE: part 2 - FR, Wed Jul 24 14:15:00 2013
• RE: part 2 - vanperry, Thu Jul 25 16:32:27 2013
• RE: part 2 - geckoejon, Thu Jul 25 18:20:00 2013
• RE: part 2 - FR, Thu Jul 25 18:42:23 2013
• No such thing as a problem snake? - Rextiles, Sat Jul 27 22:03:30 2013
• RE: No such thing as a problem snake? - DISCERN, Sat Jul 27 22:40:06 2013
• RE: No such thing as a problem snake? - FR, Sat Jul 27 23:57:21 2013
• RE: Part 2, husbandry - FR, Sun Jul 28 00:04:11 2013
• RE: No such thing as a problem snake? - geckoejon, Sun Jul 28 05:58:51 2013
• RE: No such thing as a problem snake? - geckoejon, Sun Jul 28 06:19:11 2013
• RE: No such thing as a problem snake? - FR, Sun Jul 28 08:49:03 2013