You started me with wanting pituophis when you brought your hypo female bullsnake to work that day. I still remember when you took the lid off the 5 gallon bucket and pulled her out. You ever want something real bad even though it scares you? LOL I don't think I held her, but it didn't matter I had to have one. I didn't get that hypo bull until the the fifth snake. A grayband was the fist snake you got for me. Wait, I think you did start the transition. I remember getting that year old corn/rat you had when that guy didn't take him when it was a hatchling. It wasn't a pit and you weren't going to breed him. You didn't even talk that well about him. Brenda kept asking me what you would do with the corn/rat if you decide you don't want it. I told her we can't release in California so you'll probably lower the snakes temperature to 30 degrees for a couple days. It took Brenda awhile to figure what I meant. When she did she wanted me to get the snake from you. I told her I would do the same thing with the snake, but she figured I wouldn't if she kept on me not to lower the temp. She did the same thing with Ugmo. As soon as we started calling him Ugmo, Brenda figured he was going to the cooling chamber. That's why she even snitched him from your place that day. LOL. She still thinks I'm kidding when I say she owes you $100 for him. I told her the other day that you wanted a leopard gecko or pair when she starts producing them. She said she'll give you a good price and I said she still owes you for Ugmo. It's funny, I still have that corn/rat snake. Brenda calls him "cornholio".

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