i love the discussion and exchange i have had here in the last month, but i wonder...



comparing this forum to my more familiar monitor forum, WHERE ARE THE URO BREEDERS?!?!??!?!?!



i see in Hobby's post below, someone mentioned the "great" breeding success of Doug Dix, Lindsey, and others, but i haven't noticed any forum participation from any "large" breeders. am i missing it? (could be, i am unfamiliar with screen names here



i would like to know, what is "great" success? it is my understanding that captive Uro breeding is in fact very poorly carried out. if it was successful, where are all the captive babies? (and not the import captive babies that have flooded the market recently, i mean u.s. captive bred Uros)



getting eggs is not hard, not at all. getting good eggs and hatching them is a different story. getting 20 eggs, and 2 good ones out of 20, is that success? i think that is a step from zero, but NOT success. 18 out of 20, 20 out of 20, that is successful.



is hatching 100 babies a year successful? at PE, we have hatched THOUSANDS of monitors in the last few years, i see no reason why a "successful" Uro breeder shouldn't be hatching well over 100 babies each and every year.



if not, then there is still something significantly wrong. not that it is a horribly bad thing, but the goal should be to fix it!



from my lizard experience, lack of breeding is basically keyed to social groups and to setup. social group problem- start with hatchlings together, not older animals (not quite THAT easy, but that is the basic strategy).



setup is much more detailed and difficult to capture. 100's of things to go wrong that contribute to no breeding at all- breeding but bad eggs, good eggs that go bad, incubation, full term death of eggs, dumping of eggs, all are tied to setup, and all can be fixed and addressed, with time and experience, and proper application of solid lizard theory.



so where are the posts from experienced breeders that discuss these problems and shed light on solutions for the hobbyist and future breeder?



i have visited the Uro sites, but aside from standard dull caresheets, there is not much more info offered. i would be interested to know the details of a "successful" breeding. egg counts, bad eggs, hatchling counts.



when the Uro community gains access to this type of discussion, and can work to improve results, then we should see wider success based on solid knowledge and theory, and less shot in the dark success.



so where are the breeders in this discussion?
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