As a matter of fact the cages are very generic. I was using seed as a substrate with pvc for hides. I have had very good luck with the pcv hides but do not like the seed. I just switched over to playsand with flagstone for basking areas and hides. I definately like a more natural look but dirt is out of the question as this is in the main part of the house and it is just too dusty. I really have not noticed any difference in any lizard I have kept using a natural or generic setup. If anything maybe a little less skittish using a natural setup as I think it makes them feel more secure. Other things I have noticed are that aquriums make a very poor cage unless 3 sides are covered. The openness just makes them spas out. Also I have really noticed with chuckwallas is that when you move them to a new cage or change their cage around they freak out also. After doing this I have had some chucks take as long as 2-3 months to acclimate to their new surroundings. When I got my San Esteban Island chuckwallas from the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum they did not touch food for the first 3 months I had them. I really think that most lizards are creatures of habit and when you take them out of surroundings that they are used to it is really stressful for them. Tom

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