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CheriS
at Sat Jan 3 20:20:43 2004 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by CheriS ]
but I think there is a miscommunication there..
your taking her "in time" as a few days adapting them together and missing that they are saying "eventually" "When they're ready to live together""Once she's up and feeding again, and big enough to hold her own" and "if he tries to mate with her, they'll still need separate quarters until she's ready,(probably by this summer if she feeds well.)" BUT.. I think age needs to be spelled out between you too.... I see them saying this summer, not now, but I can see how you may have read it that way also. But they also advised "keep her in your quarantine tank for now, (best to do that anyway.)" Again, time needs to be spelled out.
The only thing I disagree with is the "By then they should be fine together all the time". Although there are males that can stay with one female and not bother her non stop, that is NOT the norm for male dragons. 99% of them can not be in with only one female and not have problems.
There is one exception we have seen to that, the Hypo-pastels are not big breeders for some reason, possibly due to the males not getting as dark, so the females not repsonding and we have seen male and female (mature) of those together without the male pestering the female non stop.
What they say about coccidia and pinworms is true, in small amounts they are not a problem, but when stressed or changing enviroments, is when they bloom out of control and you will see a lot of the same signs that you see in a brumating dragon.... so we recommend that others have them checked after two weeks in the new home and see if they have a high load that is causing the sleepiness and lack of eating.
If it is higher than should be and that is affecting her health, you have other options besides medicating them to bring it down and back into control, but if that does not work or the animal's health is compromised (which this one,if NOT brumating may be) then you may need to treat for them, pinworms are not that big a problem with meds, the coccidia meds can be harmful, but there are support methods you use with them to lower the risk and make it easier for them.
Get a fecal done and there is a problem you can address it prior to her getting to run down and answer if it is brumation or something else going on. But allowing her to become gravid right now would certainly compromise her health, so really no visit time with a male dragon (they can breed in less than 30 seconds)
If her count is high and that is what is affecting her, you can come back on here and several others can advise you of cleaning routine, substrate and hydration to lower it, or if she needs treated with meds, the support methods that make risk minimal.
8 month old have been known to brumate, but it is not the norm in one that age and since she has moved homes that is a stress to many, been exposed to a an older male that could be stressful, not eating well or pooing... all strong indicators that she should be checked now and since in with him also, he needs to be checked too.
We never try to mate dragons under 350 grams and rarely even then unless they are over two years and very healthy with traits that are good to pass on to others, there are too many small dragons out there as it is and this is not the norm for dragons either.
I am curious, if Rex is only 1 inch larger than an 8 month old, what length and weight are they?
Just for general reference, this is what a breedable female should look like body and health wise to support being gravid
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- dragonz - CheriS, Sat Jan 3 10:29:48 2004
- RE: dragonz - dragonz, Sat Jan 3 16:17:29 2004
 Okay, I can see what you think they are saying - CheriS, Sat Jan 3 20:20:43 2004 
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