yes, not to beat a dead horse here...



for the most part, i am pretty much done with this conversation. it is like we are on different planes of understanding here, and we seem to be missing each other. that is fine though too, the exchange has been fun...



i don't think Uros are hard to breed at all. there are SOOO many parallels between the Uros and the monitor world. as we say in the monitor breeding world, getting eggs is easy, hatching healthy babies is tougher. when the Uros are set up and cared for properly, breeding will be easy (relatively). keep that in mind, and in the future, hoping it comes true, maybe we can reflect back on it



or maybe we can reflect back and say "Robyn is a dimwit, and was completely confused!"



but i am confident to move forward, and here's why...



the Uro forum, the posts that are made, the trouble folks have with keeping their animals, breeding strategies, successes and failures, setup discussions, etc., maybe you guys haven't seen it all before, but i have!



this forum is like the monitor forum was 5 or 6 years ago! absolutely true. the keepers on this forum are struggling with the same problems and dilemmas that we dealt with over the years with monitor lizards. the two species are so alike it isn't even funny, that is why i am confident that we can apply our strategies with the Uros and achieve similar results.



your "accepted norms" for Uros (as you have defined "successful" breeding and husbandry) mimic very closely what is now considered "ancient" husbandry and techniques in the monitor world. we had the same discussions (really, same, same, SAME!), only the species name was different. the same arguments, the same "fast growth and breeding can't be healthy" back and forths, the same temperature and soil arguments, really, THE SAME TOPICS, IN THE SAME FORMAT, with largely THE SAME RESULTS. it is literally deja-vu, and that is what drives me so crazy. it is like one of those time travel movies where you go back and want to change the past, but you can't!



i was hoping that some of the monitor breeders might chime in a bit here on the Uro forum and add a voice or two, but they are too busy being caught up in their own monitor discussions (currently neck deep in detailed socializing and pairing theory, and how it pertains to captive lizards, kinda hard to follow, but feel free to take a look at varanus.net).



anyway, i don't wanna type ranting manic posts at 2am anymore, at least for a while, so i will lay back for a bit, and in the meantime, polish up our Uro groups



as Sir Charles said- i might be wrong, but i doubt it!



best of luck to all!



i'm Audi 5000 G!



ps to Tom- diet is currently your basic veggie attack, with supplements, but we are also looking at that now, and trying some different things, with mixed results
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