Mr. Fry, on your website you mentioned getting cobra-type venom from ratsnakes. What species was this? Have you ever done studies with our NA rats (pantherophis)? What did you find?



Now the venomoid issue, I agree that hacking the glands out of a snake to accomidate a novice that shouldn't have it is wrong but one of the main defenses of the antivenomiod crowd is that crotilids rely on there venom to such an extent that they simply can't digest prey with out it. To me this seems a little extravigant, snakes are generally an adaptible thing. Do they truly rely on envenomation completly for digestion or can they make due without it.

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• hognose venom - shyguy4217, Sat Jan 17 21:14:51 2004
• RE: hognose venom - Colchicine, Sat Jan 17 21:57:41 2004
• RE: hognose venom - utpike, Sat Jan 17 22:00:56 2004
• RE: hognose venom - BGF, Sun Jan 18 00:01:52 2004
• How do you propose we refer to them as? - Colchicine, Sun Jan 18 02:11:20 2004
• RE: How do you propose we refer to them as? - BGF, Sun Jan 18 02:24:43 2004
• RE: How do you propose we refer to them as? - Colchicine, Sun Jan 18 02:37:19 2004
• RE: How do you propose we refer to them as? - BGF, Sun Jan 18 03:52:17 2004
• RE: How do you propose we refer to them as? - utpike, Sun Jan 18 17:04:51 2004
• A little of the heterodon topic but... - CamHanna, Sun Jan 18 21:52:38 2004
• RE: A little of the heterodon topic but... - BGF, Sun Jan 18 23:17:50 2004
• RE: How do you propose we refer to them as? - utpike, Sun Jan 18 17:10:23 2004
• Looks like a normal adult male to me. np - chrish, Tue Jan 20 07:00:32 2004