The second generation deal, is a bit funny. It really makes me laugh. If you did obtain the CITES regs, you will notice a few nice helpful paragraghs. One says something like, if CITES animals are bred in captivity(not in country of origin) they are lowered a catagory. I, becomes II, II, becomes III(species of concern, but not regulated)



If you read what the I,II,III, mean, you will get a nice chuckle. Of course CITES I, means endangered. But CITES II, means, species to be kept track of, in case they need protection. They suppose to issure permits to cross borders, but not interfere in that traffic. Hmmmmmmmmmm they missed that boat too.



So I asked about that, and was told, thats true, but it has to be done in a CITES approved facility. Then they throw in the kicker, THERE ARE NONE. SO our fellas allow indo deregged species, but not ours. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm



V.prasinus, has been locally protected for as long as I can remember(over 15 years) but were imported as "kordensis" (which is illegal) So that makes all them in our country illegal?????? thats the same as ozzie reptiles.



Dealing with F&W, is a bit like dealing with a local street gang. They do not have to be right, or play fair, they have the power to effect your life. And they will do so, if upset. They told me, I can do whatever I wanted, just don't import or export, so thats what I do. right or wrong, they won.



In any business there are risks, with breeding monitors, the daily risks are the monitors themselves. To include the risks of importing is simply to much for me. Besides, there are always those who like those risks.



I get the feeling, Hank was not the suggler, but the one that ends up with recently imported animals. He does have guts. I really have no idea what he does now, but he is one interesting fella to talk to. I enjoy his company. But then, I do not have to be exposed to what he may have done.



He told me about those glebos for many many years, yet I was never convinced they were out of country of origin. That occurs for many species, I have been offered about all things cool. My guess is, if the money is there, then there are people who will take the risks. At this time, there is little money to take risks. So, just do not offend the gang and all is well. F

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