"The supplement will provide all of the nutritional, calcium, and protein needs so that I could get rid of

crickets (except for the occasional thrill of the hunt..lol), pellets, multivitamins, calcium dust w/d3,

and UVB altogether?"



The VGF and the VMF will provide all the macro and micro nutrients a dragon needs to grow and thrive...the potential problem lies in whether they are eating enough of the dusted salads. Nutrients aside a dragon needs a certain amount of calories of each macro nutrient to grow and just do dragon things...lol. Lisa's dragons will each alot of veggies, so she should not have problems. Others might not have dragons that eat a large amount of greens. What it comes down to is the dragon owner monitoring how much there BD is eating. In theory and logically, a BD that eats his fill of veggies liberally dusted with the t-rex products will get all the nutrients and not need anything else. As for UVB, for me it does not factor into the equation. I don't use them and my dragons are fine. They have only been supplemented with the t-rex products for almost a year now. I still feed insects to my dragons and use the ICB formula.





"So theoretically I could (not that I would) feed my dragons only iceburg

Lettuce dusted with the sandfire supplement and they would be completely healthy even if they were

raised on it since babies? If this is indeed true it seems like it would be the holy grail of diets for

raising BD's."



Theoretically, yes that could work, not that I would do it either...simple for the reason that I don't think growing babies will eat enough of it(I know lisa will tell me otherwise...lol), not that I don't have faith in the formulation. I agree with christy about the iceburg lettuce also, but I do use only one green to dust the food onto (usually romain or a green). If someone were to succeed raising a dragon i this matter, It would not mean it is the holy grail or diets, it is just a well formulated diet. I think what needs to be understood is that nutrients are nutrients, what source they come from is not always as important as how much of each is present and in what ratios.





"I'm not completely clear on the difference between the VGF and the VMF."



The VGF is meant for growing BD's and can be used for gravid females. It contains more protein, calcium and d3 than the VMF, all of which our growing little ones need...lol.



"While I trust that the SDR developed

formula sounds to be really good, what is to keep T-rex from cutting corners on the ingredients to

cut costs and raise profits?"



This one is easy...the production of the product line is actively overseen by Allen Repashy. He is the person that developed the formulations, and his name is on every bottle. These are really his products, the are just manufactured, marketed, and distributed by t-rex. One added thing that is nice about the powders, is that there is minimal processing going on...some ingredients are milled, and then all are blended in the ratios that that perticular formula calls for. This is not true with pellets. Most(if not all)are extruded, which requires some heating of the product. This could have an effect on some of the nutrients in these products. Anyway, I hope this helped a bit.




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