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Alan Garry
at Mon Feb 23 12:02:45 2004 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Alan Garry ]
Now we're getting somewhere. As strongly as you feel about the negative impact of wildcaught on the wild populations, you finally admit it as an opinion. Although I myself feel that the negative effects of wildcaught is often overstated, I don't have a problem with someone disagreeing as long as they don't state it as an absolute. I will say that if you destroy habitat to find herps, that is bad for the wild populations, which is something that does happen. I did it when I was alot less experienced. I also don't discount that some captive breeders do feel they are doing alot more good than they really are. I do believe that most of us realize that we are doing this for our own enjoyment, and will freely admit it.
As far as our hobby having a darkside, the majority of us realize that. It's discussed every time I get together with my herping buddies. We all know someone who keeps everything they find, and sub standard operating pet stores, and yes, it's bad. However HSUS is playing it up, as well as adding their own blatant lies. That is what we need to defend against.
As far as captive breeding having no positive impact on the wild, we are going to have to agree to disagree. As long as you state that as fact people aren't going to take you as seriousely as you want them to. I will say you don't have facts to back it up. Yes, there are laws against releasing CB in some states, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be beneficial. I guess you could say you have facts to back it up if you believe everything you read. As far as release project being successful there is probably no hard proof, but there is also no hard proof it didn't work. Once again do researchers agree on all points?
No one is saying that a snake in a cage is benefitting the wild. Yes. Offspring would have to be released. You do admit that if the milksnake project was a success, that CB could offer some potenial benefit to the wild. Doesn't that make your so called fact somewhat of an uncertainty?
By the way everything I've posted is opinion. To state otherwize would be arrogant. Once again how about a real name. A first name will be fine
Later.
Alan,
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 responce... - Alan Garry, Mon Feb 23 12:02:45 2004
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