Yo...bro ...I couldnt resist!



My comments are inserted below in CAPS... not to shout...merely to differentiate...





Posted by: BigBrother at Sun Feb 29 15:32:34 2004 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]



John,



I just have one comment and five questions for you, which for me is not much.



I have long held the belief that the biggest problem with wildlife laws is that they are usually constructed by Biologists or by Law Enforcement personnel but not with the two in concert, what we need are laws that take into account both perspectives. It functionally doesn’t matter if a law is unenforceable or biologically idiotic, either way the law is doomed to failure, and your post demonstrates this failure in action. Do you agree with my assessment, namely that wildlife laws should be constructed with the input of BOTH biologists and law enforcement personnel?



NO DOUBT, BUT OFTEN THEY IN FACT ARE...HERE IN AZ MOST OF US IN FACT WEAR BOTH HATS,...THO... MANY MIGHT ARGUE MOST DO NEITHER....WELL!

THE BIOLOGISTS, [PARTIC. THOSE OF THE NON-GAME...SUBSPECIES] TEND TO BE ON THE EGO APPEASEMENT TRIP, AS THEY TEND TO COME FROM FAIRLY POWERLESS BACKGROUNDS & THE LAW IS A VERY POWERFULL APRHRODIASIAC....SEE ANY POLITICIAN SHOULD YOU NEED TO SEE THIS FUNCTION @ WORK.

THE BEST OF THE LE LADS ARE FRANKLY HUNTERS...WARRIORS...THE LAW DEFINES THE ENEMY & THEY WILL INTERDICT & SUPPRESS...NO FURTHER ANALYSIS IS GENERALLY NECCESARY [NOR DESIREABLE].



John, what do you think is going to happen to your chuckwalla population as development and other forms of habitat destruction gobble the habitat around the park up?



NO CHANGE, CHUCK HAB. IS PROTECTED BY THE PARK STATUS.



Will your chuckwalla population still be able to sustain the same level of take that it sustained eight or so years ago?



NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THO NOW THAT THEIR TAKE IS ILLEGAL...I DOUBT MANY ARE BEING TAKEN...AS THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN MY CONSIDERABLE EXPERIENCE [93% ].... OBEY THE LAW.



Do you think there is a link between overall population size, and thus the number of individuals that can be harvested from a population,



YES, & IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF SITUATIONS...BUT NOT ALL....THIS IS THE CASE THAT SUPPORTS THE SPORT TAKE W/ HERPTILES (NOTE MY ASSERTION DOES NOT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL TAKE SUCH AS PET TRADE NOR ROUNDUPS} & THIS IS WHAT COMPETENT BIOLOGISTS WORKING IN THE SPIRIT OF ALDO LEOPOLD SHOULD FOCUS ON...NOT THEIR PERSONAL PSYCHOLOGICAL NEEDS... UNMET ELSEWHERE.



and the amount of suitable habitat available to a species. And if so, don’t you think that the number of chuckwallas the indigenous people could have harvested for food 200 years ago without damaging the survival probability of the species was significantly greater than it is today, and what about in ten years from now?



NO...IN FACT THE CHUCK POP. MIGHT... QUITE... POSSIBLY WAS LIMITED BY HUMAN PREDATION THEN...THE HAB QUANTITY & OVERALL QUALITY IN THE SALT RIVER MTNS. WAS THE SAME [INSULAR HABITAT] THEN AS NOW. REST ASSURED MY FRIEND...TIME WILL TELL & A DECADE FROM NOW THIS MTN WILL CRAWL W/ CHUCKS & THE GOVT CAN CLAIM YET AGAIN...ANOTHER MAJOR VICTORY OVER THE EVIL FORCES OF GREED & CONSUMPTION!



@ EASE....JG



Big Brother

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