Wow, that's a bold statement. I have always deemed the 2 rarest snakes (though with full ranges in the US) to be the LA and black pine. Coastal plains have a larger range, and although they are very fossorial in habitat, you do see people finding them from time to time. However, I have never seen ANYONE ever catch a black or LA pine and have only heard one account of a herper catching a LA pine.

I think its safe to say that Tony's coastals are pure temporalis unless proven otherise (Innocent until proven guilty), though I know we all agree that they should be represented as mixed locale.
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• Hypo coastals - Tony D, Fri May 14 07:30:21 2004
• RE: Hypo coastals - MarcB, Sat May 15 14:27:52 2004
• RE: Hypo coastals - Jason Nelson, Sat May 15 14:41:32 2004
• Greed, Greed, Greed. - A.C., Sat May 15 19:21:29 2004
• Totaly agree with ya! - MarcB, Sun May 16 08:56:42 2004
• RE: Greed, Greed, Greed. - mariasman, Sun May 16 21:35:18 2004
• RE: Greed, Greed, Greed. - A.C., Sun May 16 23:15:11 2004
• I have not been convinced "outbreeding"this group is needed-more - Jeff Schofield, Mon May 17 21:54:41 2004
• Elaborate, Jeff... - A.C., Tue May 18 20:44:05 2004
• Until DNA results are in I dont rule anything out as far as subspecificatio - Jeff Schofield, Tue May 18 21:02:28 2004
• rarer than P. ruthveni?! - A.C., Tue May 18 22:40:15 2004
• RE: Until DNA results are in I dont rule anything out as far as subspecificatio - Tony D, Wed May 19 12:42:37 2004
• ouch! - rtdunham, Fri May 21 17:46:37 2004
• my rebuttal - A.C., Fri May 21 22:43:26 2004
• RE: ouch! - Tony D, Sun May 23 15:05:29 2004
• Your principals arent being questioned Tony - Jeff Schofield, Sat May 22 17:44:41 2004
• RE: Your principals arent being questioned Tony - Tony D, Sun May 23 14:59:34 2004
• Thats the way my luck has been running,lol - Jeff Schofield, Sun May 23 15:15:23 2004