I'm not sure of what my government conciders as wild and domestic. I'm trying to educate myself about these things so that I can confront my government with this.



5 weeks ago I was your standard geckogeek with a cause, to legalize CB herps as pets in Norway.

little more than 4 weeks ago I was caught for keeping geckoes.

Since then I've been through hell and back again in order to sdave my animals and to be able to keep them.

But enough about that, my case is sad but it is the situation in Norway that I'm most concerned about.

The consequences of the herp ban in Norway is that up to 1000 heprs are put to death here annually.

Mostly leopard geckoes, kingsnakes and boids. For me this makes no difference, I believe it is wrong of my government to continue this practice so I'm working in hope to be able to put an end to this one day.



Your comemnt on ferral cats and dingo's is most interesting.

I hadn't looked at the subject from that point of view. Thank you for sharing. )



In theory I should be judged after the law that forbids exotic animals to be kept in Norway.



Instead my government is trying to convict me after the "game-law". This is why I'm so interested in definition of Game and wild animal.

to me it makes no sence that I'm confronted with breaking "the wrong law".

The reason is quite simple tho, that's what makes it so hard.

The law that forbids lacks a good argument for exisring.

"the government fears that such animals can not be given optimal conditions in captivity"

If I was judged after this law it would be simpler for me to defend myself.

Instead I am confronted by §48 in the "game law" whereby all game that is illegally killed or held captive falls into the property of the government.

This is because of 1 person in the norwegian government who's practice of this law is close to abuse of power.

However, I cannot permit myself to make such accusations formally nor do I have the means to prove any of this.

It's a generally accepted fact amongst the more educated persons in the herp society in Norway.



So that's why I have to find other means of saving my animals and myself.



Herps are not the only animals that are affected by the laws in this context.

Tropical birds are also concidered as exotic animals and are also the target of a certain official in my country.



back to your post.

I'm almost certain that there's not a chance in hell for me to get permission to import a Dingo to Norway but I'll check it out just for the plesure of beeing certain. Thanx for the tiop. )

The feral cat is a grey area.

We have a law in norway that forbids the keeping of wild native animals.

Hence, if a feral cat is concidered as a wild animal the it would be illegal to bring a ferral cat home.

Hmm.. an interesting topic for me to bring back to norwegian forums. Thanx again. )

I'm sure that my authorities would not procecute people who bring home ferral cats tho..



My government doen't deny me to keep geckoes because they're not domesticated but because the government is sceptical to whether private persons can provide herps with optimal conditions in captivity because of the climate in our country. Hence this is a topic of animal welfare.



This may sound unbelievable but it's true.

We still haven't been able to convince our government that the outdoor temp is not of importance as herps are kept in terariums indoors.

There's also the issue that herps are carriers of Salmonella. Of course, in my country this argument is blown out of proportion..



I'm sorry that my posts always end up beeing so long. I'm not that good in english and when it comes to topics that are hard for me to compress even in Norwegian I'm having great difficulties traduating my thoughts and compressing them.



Best regards

obeligz

[ Show Entire Thread ]