I started this thread with intention to get to yet another important thing. I myself fall into this category, of using 1 basic method for incubation for all of my colubrids. They're all in 1 incubator and all on the same substrate with the same water to substrate ratio. I think details on things like this could be very very important for success. I think it would be interesting to take 5 pairs of any given snake that were all kept and cycled under identical circumstances, and then incubate their clutches in 5 Hovabators with slight differences in temps and humidity. Continue this experiment for a decade and examine the results. I am keeping in mind many many breeders would have to do this before any data brought in would even be taken seriously but I find it annoying that people speak so matter of factly about why things went wrong when they did not produce. It is always, "the parents were too closely related, or I should've bred het to het" or something. Not often enough do we ask, could it have been something else? You would think that with the huge amount of breeders in this hobby we would have a a few more answers. Not to mention some snakes may get an undeserved bad rap and shy people away from deciding to work with them, and that would be a shame. All thoughts are welcomed and appreciated Tom

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