I was aware of the toad thing..it crossed my mind to try to find one then i figured...it was a bad idea...I got lizard marker...it hansn't worked yet...but I did go back to the store where I got the hognose, and person i know was working I talked to him for a bit(he has owned countless snakes over the years breeding and such) and he has had western hognoses...and pretty much went over what you guys did....what i might have missed...he mentioned the substrate so I think I'll make it a little deeper. I also brought up my concern that the snake could ahve been wild caught be he assured me that that was unlikly the place they got this hognose from never deals with wild caught animals. Anyways I'll keep you all updated on whats going on as it happens.

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• need some help.... - SnakeSlither, Tue Jun 22 00:01:06 2004
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