Hello,

Just a quick correction on the Breeding in 04. This is the first year I bred a Motley female, and the Female Motley that gave birth to that premature dead baby litter was a Hypo Motley. I bred a Motley Male to the Female Hypo Motley. (Columbian) I got 3 Purple Patternless (Supers) and one Hypo Purple Patternless. There were 2 dead normals too. This is in the picture Above.

I agree exactly with what obz said. Good points. It has happened before in a few other Mutations. It hapened with a Tiger Retic. So, I'm sure that it was FLUKE, but it happened. The first one that I hope to breed this fall was a Fluke. I wonder if it is going to be dominant though.

After I saw the babies this year that were dead, I was confident that this IS what the Super Motley is.

When I saw Alex's boa, and saw how very similar it was to the "super" from the Columbian Motley, I was quite Confident that the SUPER motley is the Patternless Boas. Yes, we do need to do some breedings to make SURE, but I am very confident that the Super Motley is the Black and purple patternless. I could be wrong, as I have been many times in the past, but this is just my thoughts.

Also to Robert. I have breed Two Motley siblings to a Motley and got nothing but 1/2 litters of Motleys. So, I don't think anything is tagging along in recessive form. That is a great theory though. Could be true. Look at all the wild stuff happening with the Platium Ball ball python. You are right in the fact that we really won't know 100 percent that the Patternless Boas are the SUPER untill we breed them to normals and get ALL Motleys.


Great Topic. Either way, these Motleys are producing some very interesting stuff. They are a very fun Morph to work with and I feel very lucky to have them. Any other thoughts or theories? Take Care, Jeremy Stone

BTW, this picture was taken a few hours after they were born, and the skin was dried up. I tried to moist it, but you can get the idea. The Hypo Patternless was VERY Shocking to see.

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• My Opinion on "Super" Motley genetics - vcaruso15, Thu Jul 8 21:13:20 2004
• Alex says in his post that, (more) - obz, Thu Jul 8 22:13:16 2004
• It is a toss up....more - robertmcphee, Thu Jul 8 22:33:36 2004
• RE: It is a toss up....more - vcaruso15, Thu Jul 8 22:54:01 2004
• I agree! It would be a lot more fun if I had one of my own, np - robertmcphee, Thu Jul 8 23:09:17 2004
• RE: Good Topic, Here is my 2 cents. - Jeremy Stone, Fri Jul 9 00:26:51 2004
• RE: Good Topic, Here is my 2 cents. - PanamaRed, Fri Jul 9 01:14:04 2004
• are they supers? hell yea! - NicholasH, Fri Jul 9 00:37:44 2004
• sorry, here's the link to the pic... - NicholasH, Fri Jul 9 00:50:28 2004
• It could go either way. - ecreipeoj, Fri Jul 9 13:30:40 2004