I have recieved several emails from people who wish to remain annonomous at this time, that do verify several things about this story and seem to lend it credibility. This is very disturbing to me. There was too much detail as to how it was done for this to be made up, I feel. I have names but I will not post anything until I have solid confirmation and more evidence that this really happened, or even worse that it is still happening. For those that know something about this that are reluctant to post openly please email me at BrianSmithReptiles@hotmail.com and I promise I will never reveal anything you do not want revealed. And for those that may be doing this dispicable practice of sterilyzing male morphs, I would suggest that you either stop it at once or at the very least notify your customers that they are not buying snakes with a reproductive capability. Because if this is happening,... I'm about to blow the lid off of it.







>>I figured I would post this here just in case someone familiar with this doesn't visit the retic forums.

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>>I was speaking with a friend and fellow breeder the other day and he told me that he knew a guy that had purchased a lot of high end snakes from a breeder (name withheld) with the intention to breed them to eventually make money on the offspring,... and that year after year they would not breed for him much to his bewilderment,... and he somehow finally discovered that the breeder he had purchased them from had injected the males with spermicidal prior to sale to somehow render them sterile for life. Has anyone else heard anything similar to this? It's the first I had heard of it, and quite frankly it sounds so incredibly implausible that I immeditately discounted it as some form of horror story,.. but then I began to wonder. Sometimes fact is stranger than fiction, you know? I just couldn't see how a spermicidal would be effective for any extended period of time. Wouldn't it be filtered out of the snake's system in short time? And even if it were there and viable, how could it be detected? Blood tests? Com'mon, we need a scientist here to explain the micro details if possible. But I would most certainly dred this ever happening to me, so I would like to probe into this subject to find out any truths or otherwise. At the very LEAST to dispell this as pure nonsense so as to never worry about it again.

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>> So has anyone anywhere ever had a problem with their stock from a particular person not breeding? If so I would be interested in hearing about it, as I'm sure other breeders would too.

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>>It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Sytstems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Sytstems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

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• Has anyone else ever heard this awful rumor or have had any problems such as this? - BrianSmith, Sun Jun 22 13:54:03 2003
• It seems that there may be more truth to this than I originally thought,... - BrianSmith, Sun Jun 22 18:34:26 2003
• RE: It seems that there may be more truth to this than I originally thought,... - Scott_Sullivan, Sun Jun 22 22:17:30 2003
• yep - meximullet02, Sun Jun 22 23:58:11 2003
• Brian Not to sound crude but thats exactly >>>more - Highlander1, Mon Jun 23 00:13:48 2003
• Not at all,.. I agree 100%,...more - BrianSmith, Mon Jun 23 00:22:59 2003
• Long -winded and dual purpose - tango, Mon Jun 23 06:39:32 2003
• RE: Brian Not to sound crude but thats exactly >>>more - meretseger, Mon Jun 23 06:39:06 2003
• RE: Brian Not to sound crude but thats exactly >>>more - Dave79, Mon Jun 23 18:32:34 2003