I would like to add one thing which applies to the small colubrids and small boids.



I agree with everything you said except the most important part. The deli cup. It has amazed me over the years as many "professional" herpertoculturists place a deli cup into a huge box and then the deli cup is only filled with a small paper towel . The poor snakes are still getting tumbled and jostled about with no limits to the stress this can cause.

If you think about it snakes in general are not clausterphobic as us humans are. Matter of fact a lot of the Mountain Kings you produce are very comfortable crammed into a tight crevice or hole under ground and are found this way in the field. Some herpers have even got specimens to eat only after they supply a sufficeint hide where the snake can jam itself into. Its quite okay for a snake to be crammed into a deli cup filled to the top with shavings. They tunnel about and are very happy. Ever notice how people find some snakes? under rocks, under boards, rotten logs ect.



Brings me to my point. should fill the deli cup to the top with shavings and then place the snake into the deli cups This is very comfortable to the snake and cuts down the stress of shipping TREMENDOUSLY (as I said above it the most important part)the small snakes tunnel in the shavings and can breath just fine. SHOULD someone drop or toss the box (its gonna happen)...no biggie...the snake is fully protected.



I have been shipping snakes for over 20 years with this method and I learned it from the late Lloyd Lemke who probably shipped more live snakes than anyone in his lifetime.



Otherwise, I agree with all of your shipping methods and I thank you for taking the time to create such an excellent post.

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• The Right Way to Ship Reptiles, Even if it's "Wrong" - mountainkings, Thu Sep 2 10:36:02 2004
• Awesome post...but... - bluerosy, Mon Sep 6 17:26:50 2004
• RE: Not a bad idea, but what about airflow? - mountainkings, Mon Sep 6 18:16:05 2004
• RE: Not a bad idea, but what about airflow? - bluerosy, Mon Sep 6 21:20:47 2004
• RE: Not a bad idea, but what about airflow? - steveowc, Mon Dec 13 00:56:49 2004
• I know I appreciate it.... - Traci, Tue Sep 7 08:39:54 2004
• RE: I know I appreciate it.... - bluerosy, Tue Sep 7 14:30:19 2004
• I do more than just the hammock... - Traci, Wed Sep 8 04:05:28 2004
• The deli cup should be filled to the rim with shavings.. - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 08:20:22 2004
• boy, you're bossy!! LOL - Traci, Wed Sep 8 11:54:11 2004
• Not bossy, just don't want your post to mislead anyone n/p - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 14:51:36 2004
• what are you talking about??? - Traci, Wed Sep 8 16:55:06 2004
• RE: what are you talking about??? - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 20:21:26 2004
• RE: Packaging within the deli cup - mountainkings, Wed Sep 8 20:53:21 2004
• Not a matter of right way but a better way... - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 21:54:57 2004
• three quick thoughts - rtdunham, Sat Dec 18 14:54:39 2004