return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
International Reptile Conservation Foundation  
click here for Rodent Pro
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: Happy Rattlesnake Friday! . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Hognose . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - July 25, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - July 26, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - July 26, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - July 28, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Southwestern Herp Society Meeting - Aug 02, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Aug 06, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  St. Louis Herpetological Society - Aug 10, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Kentucky Reptile Expo - Aug. 16, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Aug 16, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Aug 17, 2025 . . . . . . . . . . 

RE: Packaging within the deli cup

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Shipping Discussion ]

Posted by: mountainkings at Wed Sep 8 20:53:21 2004   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by mountainkings ]  
   

Okay, okay, everybody take a deep breath. Today I shipped two separate snakes to two different customers. I also combined my paper towel and hammock with a decent amount of Carefresh substrate. NOT wall to wall packed (in the deli cup), but enough to provide stability in shipment.

I am not convinced that a certain density of substrate is necessary. My reasoning for this is simple. No snake I have bred and shipped has ever died within 4 weeks of delivery. No snake I have bred and shipped has had a feeding response that was less than stellar. Those two indicators tell me that the snakes aren't arriving significantly stressed--even with just a cut paper towel and hammock. Keep in mind that the deli cup is in a snake bag, which is suspended and buffered on all sides by shredded paper. Undoubtedly, certain boxes have different "in transit" experiences (treatment), but I would argue that there is NOT "one and only one" correct way to package a deli cup.

Personally, I think the snakes I shipped today will arrive less stressed than previous shipments because they will be more secure--regardless of how well or how poorly the box(es) are treated by the shippers. But the substrate was not packed into the cup, it was "loosely placed" and I expect it will work quite well. I will know for a fact how well it worked tomorrow and then over the course of the next four days (I encourage my customers to NOT feed a recently shipped snake for two to four days, allowing it to acclimate to it's new environment and to recuperate from the stress and dehydration of having been shipped).

So, rather than argue, let's hope that average breeder who is getting ready to ship for the first time takes a long hard look at what we know works so as to avoid making a potentialy fatal shipping mistake (both for the snake and the potential pilot/crew of the plane it is being shipped on). As long as they follow the basic guidelines I proposed in my original post, they can tweak the details (such as the deli cup contents) to their personal liking all they want.

Keep the feeback coming though, none of us are perfect and all of us can stand to learn something, I know I did.

Thanks to all for your comments up to this point,

David


   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  Not a matter of right way but a better way... - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 21:54:57 2004

<< Previous Message:  RE: what are you talking about??? - bluerosy, Wed Sep 8 20:21:26 2004