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amara666
at Mon Sep 6 11:36:17 2004 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by amara666 ]
I don't believe there is any peer pressure put on people to sell animals at artificially high prices. There are rules in business, any type of business, that should be adhered too, but no one is forced into selling animals for more than they are worth.
Spiders are not coming out of Africa, and there are not Spiders growing on trees. There are a few ads each day for Spiders, just as there are every other morph out there, including Lessers and Mojaves.
None of these morphs are in such great abundance that everyone that wants one can afford to own one. Several years ago when Spiders went on the market, they started out at I believe $22K, then went up to $25K, then they went down again into the lower twenties.
About 2 years ago a friend of mine got into the Spider market and last year produced several Spiders and sold what he chose to sell. I know for a fact that he sold his male Spiders for over $17K each. And if he had more to sell, he would have had no problem selling them for that price.
When you compare how many people are out in this market with het Pieds and how many people have Spiders, it's ridiculous to say that Spiders are in such huge quantities that they were beiing sold at artificial prices. You say Spiders were being sold at inflated prices, and people were being pressured into keeping prices high. I don't know of anyone that had to keep their Spiders because they could not sell them at whatever price they chose to sell them for.
Pieds have been kept at an inflated price for a number of years, when you honestly think about the number of hets and poss hets out in peoples collections, Pieds should have come down in price a year or more ago. This year they dropped like a rock. Everyone that has hets and poss hets will have a difficult time making their money back on Pieds now, unless they have large quanties of het females and a few good breeding male Pieds.
At least with the Spiders you have better odds at producing visible morphs with just the investment of a male Spider and a few normal females...... and making your investment back your first season breeding Spiders should be easier to achieve.
Now I believe that recessive morphs are good money makers, but only for the people that are into the morph in the very beginning. Once there are hundreds of hets and poss hets sold, your ability of making a great deal of money is greatly reduced. You will be able to make your visible at a lower cost, but you will not make a ton of money on the morph, and that is why I think most people get into morphs to begin with. You like the way the animal looks, and you like the potential it has for making your investment back. That is good business.
If the scorn from other breeders is so great, why is it that you have people coming out with ads selling Spiders at $7K to $10K. These people that put such a low value on their animals have every right to price their animals at whatever value they feel is fair in their eyes. Maybe their animals are of inferior quality and they are having a difficult time selling them. Maybe they just want to make back their money as quickly as they can and they don't care about ruining the market. Which is poor business in my eyes.
I would not buy from someone that handles their business like that. They obviously don't care about the market and the business and they don't care about the people that are investing money in their animals. They are basically saying, as long as I make my money back, I don't care about anyone else. I can't imagine them lasting in business very long.
You don't see little boutiques that sell unusual clothing advertising that they have 3000 of these particular articles of clothing, but come in and buy one so you can be the first in your neighborhood. They put a couple out on the rack and when you buy, you feel special. Maybe that isn't completely fair, but it is business. And that is how business works. Anyone that believes that there are only 3 of those dresses in the world is naive, but at least they know they aren't being sold in Target or Walmart.
Anyone that wants to sell their animals will sell them, regardless of what the market dictates. There are always deals going on behind the scenes. Anyone that cries that they can't sell their animals shouldn't be blaming it on other breeders pressuring them ..... maybe it is them and the way they come off to potential buyers.
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- What happened to the Spider BP market? - gmherps, Sun Sep 5 18:09:35 2004
- RE: nothing abnormal........... - jyohe, Sun Sep 5 18:17:25 2004
- RE: What happened to the Spider BP market? - amara666, Sun Sep 5 19:34:35 2004
- RE: What happened to the Spider BP market? - Oz, Sun Sep 5 20:03:32 2004
- Well Said - RandyRemington, Mon Sep 6 08:08:31 2004
 RE: Well Said...... I agree with Oz ...... I disagree with Randy ..... - amara666, Mon Sep 6 11:36:17 2004
- RE: What happened to the Spider BP market? - djdpython, Mon Sep 6 08:56:56 2004
- MHO - RandyRemington, Mon Sep 6 09:24:54 2004
- RE: MHO - BallBoutique, Mon Sep 6 10:20:37 2004
- RE: What happened to the Spider BP market? - joshhutto, Mon Sep 6 12:55:39 2004
- RE: What happened to the Spider BP market? - tns4life, Mon Sep 6 23:42:19 2004
- I think the answer is simple.....No Super Spider - Jim_Perron, Tue Sep 7 00:07:48 2004
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