Works for me! you can do it while you soak him/her in the shower too, while the shower is running. Don't hold it's head in the water, but the rear portion of the snakes body, and let the shower hit the area, and gently massage the cloaca. If you give it a slight squeeze toward the tail, you can get him/her to pass urates usually; especially retained ones.

-Angel
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"Until we lose our self, there is no way of finding our self."
-Henry Miller.

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• hasnt defecated yet - extensive, Sat Oct 2 16:54:55 2004
• shes 33" - so shes not a hatchling n/p - extensive, Sat Oct 2 16:55:50 2004
• dont worry...... - lilroach56, Sat Oct 2 17:28:51 2004
• RE: dont worry...... - googo151, Sun Oct 3 13:12:19 2004
• RE: hasnt defecated yet - Sonya, Sun Oct 3 15:22:48 2004
• RE: hasnt defecated yet - greenman38, Mon Oct 4 00:17:37 2004
• thanks everyone, heres a pic of her - extensive, Tue Oct 5 14:08:56 2004
• RE: thanks everyone, heres a pic of her - googo151, Tue Oct 5 16:35:08 2004
• RE: thanks everyone, heres a pic of her - extensive, Tue Oct 5 16:41:27 2004