I actually took a lot of art classes in the past so I was thinking there really should be no excuse to my camera abilities...It honestly is the camera and the situation. I decided to go play with it some more and I took some shots of that same pastel and a baby african rock last night to see if I could do something with that I have to work with. Currently I cant figure out how to reduce the file size which happens every now and then and I dont know why. Anyway, I was surprised at how nice it turned out for my first try while holding the light in one hand and the phone in the other. I will post soon and get thoughts. Anyway, I have Makr Petros to thank for that nice pastel. I was very happy with that purchase (despite another poster on here saying it was a low quality pastel I should have gotten cheap...but who cares about them). Here is a shot outside with my parents digital camera. I am not any better with that one though.

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