return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
International Reptile Conservation Foundation  
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Kingsnake out and about this weekend . . . . . . . . . .  NARBC shows how the reptile community comes together . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com is coming to Tinley NARBC . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake battles a Rattlesnake . . . . . . . . . .  An Educational Roundup? . . . . . . . . . .  The battle for survival for the Ibiza wall lizards . . . . . . . . . .  Bringing back the Horned Lizard . . . . . . . . . .  UGA Study shows pathogens threaten snakes survival in Southern US . . . . . . . . . .  First time Sea Turtle nesting in Florida . . . . . . . . . .  New regulations on Native Species for Wisconsin Keepers . . . . . . . . . .  Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - July 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - July 19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - July 24, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - July 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - July 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Aug 05, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Aug. 15-16, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Aug 15, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

RE: Here is a chance to show off your perfect Milk Snake!!!

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Milk Snake Forum ]

Posted by: rtdunham at Sun Oct 31 11:51:47 2004   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by rtdunham ]  
   

Hi Kerry, good question.



I think you're asking about both people's preferences and the fact that you see such different prices on some varieties. Both are indicators of popularity. Paul's right when he says it's partly personal preference. Here are a few other thoughts, limited to hondos but applicable to others as well.



Albinos: They're very dramatically altered from the normal, and different is always of interest and appeal to some people. They're also rare, or at least still uncommon compared to normals. You have to remember it's only been in the last 10 years or less that albino hondos have been available--I paid $7100 for one of my first. Those first albinos were tricolors and it was year until (very recently) the first tangerine albinos were produced. They're arguably prettier; they have richer colors, generally; and they fade less so they retain more of their beauty as adults. AND, they're rarer, because people had to cross those first tricolor albinos to tangerine normals, then selectively breed the offspring to get ever-better tangerine albinos. So it's arguably a combination of appeal & supply.



Hypos: Much the same as with albinos. They have less tipping, and they darken less overall with age. So they're generally prettier. And lthey're also a phenomenon of just the past decade, so supply is still an issue. The first hypos were tangerines so THEY had to be outcrossed just the opposite direction from the albinos--to tricolors, in sthis instance--so tricolor hypos like the ones marc shows in this thread are far less common than tangerine hypos, and some would argue they're prettier. I'm in that camp.



Everyone has different tastes, that's why carmakers produce cars in different colors. Similarly, one person might find a snow (double morph albino and anerythristic) a plain animal compared to the gaudy colors of normals, for example, while others might think a snake with pastel shades of yellow, pink and white is stunning (i'm in that camp). But with the double morphs--snows, ghosts, and eventually hybinos--they're both new "looks" that may or may not be coveted, AND they're rarer than the single morphs because of the lower "yield" you get when breeding to produce them.



I hope that makes some sense. By the way, although i mis-used the terms above, we'd all be better off saying "amelanistic" than albino, because it's more descriptive and accurate, and "hypoerythristic" instead of anerythristic for the same reason--an anerythristic would be solely black and white (or gray), yet what we call "anery" hondos almost always show varying amounts of erythrins--pale yellow, violet, even orange sometimes. It's very very subltle, but so long as any of those colors are present, the snake has REDUCED colors of that type ("hypo-" NOT the absence of those colors ("an-".



peace

terry


   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


<< Previous Message:  Here is a chance to show off your perfect Milk Snake!!! - KerryBarr, Sat Oct 30 00:58:08 2004

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click to visit Sierra Fish and Pets Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-