>>Yes,I am in eastern Calif It doesn't have anything on the bottom of its stumach.looks the same as the top?very round and I know its not a brown recluse.

>>probably a brown widow?

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>>shannon



It's most certainly not a brown recluse and yes brown recluses can be found in CA...there are something like 16 species of recluses that can be found within the US (2 or 3 which are introduced mediterranean species not native species).



It looks like a combfooted species (of which widows are included), but I honestly don't think it's a brown as brown widows that I've seen tend to be dark gray/light gray/brown patterned as adults (kinda like military camo if you got imagination). It could be an overly pale western widow (westerns most common for CA) as sometimes widow abdomens can become color distorted from having fed too much too recently so the abdomen is distended beyond normal, but you say it doesn't have an hourglass so that throws a kink into the equation. It's possible it could be some odd european widow species that hitchiked it's way to the US in some box or something.



I highly suggest you try asking Spider Bob (Dr. Robert Breene) over at the American Tarantula Society what his thoughts on the ID are. He's a well known arachnologist out of Carlsbad, NM. www.atshq.org
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