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RE: a theory on hypo hondo variability

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Posted by: theselectserpent at Tue Nov 9 16:02:01 2004   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by theselectserpent ]  
   

First of all Terry ALL pyro breeding thus far to my knowledge between the two possible hypo lines has been done with hets and hets to homo animals. No homo BHB X homo 'Sentz' has been done. Until that pairing has been done I think we are jumping ahaed on assumptions. Jeff's Het I might add has not yet been proven to be het for either hypo line. Jeff's breeding was between his hypo Sentz female and a 100% het/BHB but that het male is yet to father a hypo animal of any kind. The other pairing was a het X het by Mark Petros yeilding eight babies and no hypos but I don't think both those animals have been completely proven either.

On the hondo topic referring to the hybino the albino gene would still act on its own and the variance within the hypos would'nt be directly seen but would nontheless effect that same portion of the animal as well as the other gene pool within that same animal within that portion of the animal( if that makes sense?). Therefore a hybino would produce albinos and a variation of hypos comparable to what genes it may carry which would be the same as just the hypo animal. Again I think we are talking about MANY pieces of genetic material that fall within the control of the hypo-M gene when it is present.

Just as a side thought. We humans technically have the possibilty thru meiosis to produce two differant gametes when the chromosomes split. 2 genetically differant sperm and 2 genetically differant eggs. But it is not that simple or everyone would look similair without much variance. Is what happens is that during meiosis genes that lay close to one another cross-over to the opposing chromosome. This may happen in thousands of places creating many differant sperm combinations and many differant egg combinations that now come together and create a uniquie individual. The genetic info never changes just the way in which they line up with the opposing gamete. Crossovers are the reason we get 1 out of 16 chance in a DH pairing that is homozygous. I hope I did'nt get way off track here but this is touch to convey on the forum. If two animals are similiar enough genetically then crossovers will not be as big of an effect. Is what I think IMO is the extremes are such animals in that their hypo-M control is very similiar if not the same within the area that controls the turning off of the melanin production. I could draw it and probably show my ideas better?? Anyway I gone on too long already, look forward to any comments.



Matt Woodhall


   

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