okay here is the rundown. I scored my setup ideas from robyns article in reptile magazine from Pro exotics. basically it is 16" long 11" deep 4" high. i have 2" of cypress mulch in the bottom, three hides alltogether, one on the hotside one in the middle and one on the cool side, and depending on the animals needs they are in one or the ohther. I have half the bottom covered in heat tape, which gives me a temp gradient of 92-78 with an overall ambient of 80 give or take 3 degrees, my humidity, as dry as the substrate looks is 70-75% the middle hide is always filled with moist sphagnum moss and cypress mulch, i mist the entire enclosure every two or three days, ihave them in a snakerack system that i made, on a sturdy table away from my monitors as far as they can be anyway, i didnt want them to bother the snakes but it is a hard thing to escape. Oh yeah, i also have a small water dish cleaned daily along with my monitors, which are seeming to be much easier to care for every day these snakes dont eat.

thanks for your help, i tried live rat pups today with no avail, i tried them repeatedly for about 3 hours before they died and i fed tehm to a hungry monitor. I will try getting the humidity up a little more, but i dont want to over do it. Once again, thanks again for your help i will keep trying.

scott

baltimore MD
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