MWHS,

I have no idea who you are because you haven't bothered to reveal your name, but you sound exactly like another guy I know who incessantly beats his chest about of the number of gecko species he has, how the basics of gecko nutrition is somehow different than that of humans, how it will take 20 years to know if it really works, blah, blah, blah...I've literally heard it all before. In fact, I'd be willing to bet money that you know exactly who I'm talking about because just like you, that guy can't tell me what's missing from CGD either. Don't bother denying it because we both know exactly who I'm talking about.

The nutrition part of my post was very simple, but apparently you (and the guy who you're parroting) just don't get it. Humans and geckos (and every other living thing) have basic nutrition requirements in regards to certain macronutrients and micronutrients. It doesn't take a nutrition expert or a gecko expert to understand this concept, but unfortunately for some, it does take a bit of common sense.

You (and "you know who" claim that something's missing or something might be missing, but none of you can tell us what it is or even give us an idea of what it might be. Heck, you can't even tell us if it's a vitamin, a mineral or even if it's a macronutrient or a micronutrient. All you "know" is that it can't be right.

You (and "you know who" claim that one would need to use CGD for something like 20 years to know that it's OK to use, but not a single one of you have been keeping Cresteds that long, let alone "testing" your babyfood, yogurt and cricket feeding regimen on them. All that said, somehow you want to pretend that you are qualified to say that Allen Repashy (the guy who developed CGD, for those who don't know) doesn't know what he's talking about, when the fact is that he's produced more Crested Geckos than you and all of the other "experts" combined. And somehow you rationalized calling me arrogant? Please.

I have no qualms admitting that I've only been working with them for two years and I have a lot to learn. However, I am quite confident in saying that by keeping and producing as many as I do, I'm learning at a very fast clip. You can call me irresponsible all you like, but I have yet to kill any of my chubby little geckos, so I would have to assume I'm doing something right. It's no secret that the success I've had with them has bruised the ego of a few Crested Gecko veterans...it's just a shame that you've chosen to listen to one of them. Some people just take this hobby way too seriously.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but I'll agree with you that anyone can go out and buy the ingredients of CGD and mix them up. Heck, if you want to get into that, we could all go out and buy a cow instead of buying a steak...we can all go buy peanuts and make our own peanut butter, we can all grow our own barley instead of buying a sixer of Budweiser...you get the point (hopefully). The fact is, though, that some of us find our time to be a little more valuable than the dollar or two we might be able to save.

Like all of the others I've had the pleasure of listening to, your argument (if you can even call it that) is weak at best.

Oh and make sure that when you talk to "you know who", tell him that I said hello.

Anthony



>>I myself made no assetions and hope noone took my comments as such. I respectfully disagree with your opinions and will until multigenerational tests have been run using CGD, meaning that I will trust this product in about 15 years when all the geckos initially raised on it as test animals have lived out full complete lives and their progeny are on the way to doing the same. Under any other circumstances it is irresponsible to assume that this is a "complete diet", in my opinion.
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>>That said I do use cgd and I stil hold firm that its greatest asset is its color enhancing compounds (pick up a jar of human grade spirulina and some bee pollen to acheive the same thing much more cheaply).
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>>Anthony I do have to say though that I find your comparisons to human and gecko nutrition a little out of context and misleading, being someone with a small background in nutrition, I know for a fact that no doctor would ever recommend someone eat a singular diet no matter it's composition. The risk is ALWAYS there for nuritional deficiencies. I just find your comparison a little off, no offense. As I aid before it is arrogant to assume it is a complete diet, and I hav to say this as well, if you do a little research you can find all the ingredients in cgd and ggd and mix large batches yourself at a fraction of the cost.
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>>Also I don't know who the comment "resident experts" was referring to, but that disparaging attitude towards your fellow hobbyists will take you nowhere, in fact it gave me the impression you had your hackles up for some reason, and I certainly wouldnt want to see you as the type of individual who is threatened by the fact that other people out there may disagree with what you think.. so you have to go and be derogatory.
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>>You breed awesome animals and you're definitely one of the more experienced individuals out there with them (you have definitely accomplished alot in what, a year and a half with these animals?), however I still know droves of people (a few of whom own in excess of 100 gecko species), and these "experts" see the cgd and ggd as a good product, but not nearly what it is cracked up to be.
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>>That said, I will continue to go with every book but one, and every person i have talked to that is truly an expert on the subject of reptile nutrition, who do not stand to make a buck or lose a buck off the answer they give.
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