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RE: More Extreme Hypos

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Posted by: rtdunham at Mon Dec 27 16:24:48 2004   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by rtdunham ]  
   

>>Here is a pic of the bi-colored albino male. Don
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Don, just a reminder that in normal/wild type Hondos "bicolors" are animals which have had their narrow mid-triad rings completely obscured by black tipping, leaving only two colors: the now-wide black (comprised of narrow black/the narrow ring that's now black/narrow black) and the (usually red) wide rings. At least that's the usage i've become accustomed to over the years.

By that same token, I've always considered a bicolor albino to be an animal whose narrow mid-triad ring (usually pale yellow, cream, light gold or orange) has been completely obscured by white, since on albinos tipping appears as white instead of black. Thus a bicolor albino typically is two colors: the color of the wide rings (usually red) plus the now-wide white rings (or yellow rings, on snakes that gain yellow with age).

Your snake looks like what I've seen called a "red tangerine"--the colors of the two rings approximate each other, but in the case of your snake and a few others (regis opferman produced a few a few years back, i've produced a few, i've seen a few others) on which the rings are nearly the same shade of red, compared to usual tangerines which are nearly the same shade of orange. Yours seems to still be showing the original colors of all the rings, since yours shows wide-red, narrow white, AND narrow red--i'm guessing those narrow reds are the mid-triad rings and that nothing has been obscured by white on this snake.

To me, although "bicolor" adequately describes your snake, in the hondo jargon i've seen used, it diminishes the snake unfairly, suggeting it's one of those that has had some of its color obscured or removed by the aging/tipping process. Your animal's a beaut.

Maybe others have seen the terminology used differently?

Terry


   

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